男仔發育前

男仔如果發育之前被閹割, 會吾會變得女性化

如果閹割係連帶睪丸一併切除的話,就會失去主要製造男性荷爾蒙的地方,咁樣身體內嘅女性荷爾蒙比例上會高啲,自然就不會出現男性性徵。

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如果想做女仔…係吾係發育之前切除條野會好些…更加女性化

我建議你搵心理學家去評估一下自己嘅性向先。

點解甘講

因為我唔係好明白點解要問呢知問題囉
係咪因為想探討下古代太監的性別發育問題
還是你認為自己有性別認知上有所困擾?

我想做女仔

昨日都有義工提及過一個資源中心嘅資料

有無去睇過呢?我覺得就咁係呢度提話自己想做女仔,義工定係其他板友都好難一下子幫到你幾多。變性唔係只係切左條J咁簡單,即使你心意已決,都要了解返有咩生理同心理上嘅轉變,同尋求屋企人嘅支持等等。

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係呀 明白性別依個議題 對你嚟講應該好困擾 但變性會係一條漫長嘅道路 建議你了解當中嘅細節同程序先 自己嘅心態係好重要 所以做變性手術一般都會安排會見心理學家

Hello @linda_wong2007 @Maggie_Lee 你好啊!

就住你甘問「男仔如果發育之前被閹割, 會吾會變得女性化」
答案係好浮動架!

點解甘講?原因就好似上面甘多人問你一樣,要做評估。

點解要做評估?因為就性別認同而言,一般男仔會因為自己有男性生殖器官,或者其他內外因素而構成對性別嘅認同;女仔如是。但亦都有人對自己嘅性別作出疑問,會覺得「被困在男兒身」甘樣嘅疑問,呢個時候最好就同醫生傾吓,做吓評估,睇吓自己會想點變變變~

如果確定自己其實想做女仔、想變性,其實都係好平常嘅一件事,但往往有大概三分一人其實係未諗清楚「到底自己想變成點?」,所以醫生會將變性分成前、中、後三部分,分別會配以適合嘅過程去完成變性手術。

要記住變性除左做手術,亦都需要服用他性荷爾蒙,亦有好多人覺得只係需要服用荷爾蒙,維持女性性表徵就足夠了;所以一切都要同醫生傾,同埋諗吓自己要咩咩咩甘樣。 =]

係吾係發育之前切除條野會好些…更加女性化

錯、錯、錯!男性係 唔會 因為切左就製造到女性荷爾蒙!所以你點切都唔會變女仔。

–Ivan

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其實唔會出現「連帶睪丸一併切除的話…身體內嘅女性荷爾蒙比例上會高啲」,因為男性甘樣的話本身無製造女性荷爾蒙能力,所以唔會構成「切左所有野就會變女仔」嘅論調。

–Ivan

唔好意思, 文獻話係會架呢
http://www.jci.org/articles/view/106185

Longcope C, Kato T, Horton R. Conversion of blood androgens to estrogens in normal adult men and women. J Clin Invest 1969;48:2191-2201

Continuous infusions of Δ4-androstenedione-7-3H and testosterone-7-3H have been used to demonstrate that these androgens are converted to estrone and 17β-estradiol, and contribute to the circulating blood levels of these estrogens in normal males and females.

呢篇文獻亦都係個幾好嘅reference - 當然個對象係講緊中年男性

Gonadal Steroids and Body Composition, Strength, and Sexual Function in Men

NYT呢個會簡單易明D

First published December 1, 1969

Hmm… Continuous infusions? 依家講緊係純粹切除,而非持續服用荷爾蒙?
而文獻對象都以20或以上(adult men and women)?好似反映唔到青少年或兒童階段喎。

我只係想提出, 男性體內一樣可以製造女性荷爾蒙, 調返轉都係。至於係青少年期兩種荷爾蒙會有咩野interaction, 無左其中一面會有咩野interaction, 我相信你都可以搵到相關文獻嘅。

Not really my expertise, 我只係想帶出「唔會因為切除性器官,男性就可以變女性。」

–Ivan

如果真係照樓主個意思去搵, 佢所講嘅野就係Castration。如果係青春期前進行閹割 (即係好似以前太監咁做), 維基百科相關條目有咁樣嘅描述:

A subject of castration who is altered before the onset of puberty will retain a high voice, non-muscular build, and small genitals. He may well be taller than average, as the production of sex hormones in puberty — more specifically, estrogen via aromatization of testosterone — stops long bone growth. The person may not develop pubic hair and will have a small sex drive or none at all.

哥倫比亞大學網站一個叫Go Ask Alice的欄目, 有人問過類似的問題, 答案係咁:

http://goaskalice.columbia.edu/answered-questions/castration-effects

When a boy hasn’t gone through puberty yet, castration will result in a less muscular frame, underdeveloped genitalia, lack of body hair, and a voice that doesn’t change or deepen.

總而言之會有以下嘅徵狀:

  • 唔會變聲
  • 肌肉無咁發達
  • 生得比較高
  • 性器官細小或發展低下
  • 體毛比較少
  • 性慾低下

正正因為男生閹割後唔會變聲, 所以係以前嘅歐洲係會咁樣做去令個D男生成年後繼續表演。係佢地身上會發現, 骨頭會因為關節唔會硬化而生得好長, 甚至係頭蓋骨出現增生嘅情況。

As the castrato’s body grew, his lack of testosterone meant that his epiphyses (bone-joints) did not harden in the normal manner. Thus the limbs of the castrati often grew unusually long, as did the bones of their ribs.


Not having gone through puberty, the bones of castrati did not fuse, so they were tall. Farinelli’s limb bones turned out to be quite long. A more surprising find was that the skull showed severe hyperostosis frontalis interna (HFI)—the thickening of bone behind the forehead. It’s much more common in women than in men, and that’s one reason that the authors suspect Farinelli’s condition was a consequence of his castration.

Umm,有個問題都要處理一吓,就係性別重置(變性)之後,過程之間,會出現嘅問題。

其實點解要評估,我上面都已經講過:

點解要做評估?因為就性別認同而言,一般男仔會因為自己有男性生殖器官,或者其他內外因素而構成對性別嘅認同;女仔如是。但亦都有人對自己嘅性別作出疑問,會覺得「被困在男兒身」甘樣嘅疑問,呢個時候最好就同醫生傾吓,做吓評估,睇吓自己會想點變變變~

如果確定自己其實想做女仔、想變性,其實都係好平常嘅一件事,但往往有大概三分一人其實係未諗清楚「到底自己想變成點?」,所以醫生會將變性分成前、中、後三部分,分別會配以適合嘅過程去完成變性手術。

要記住變性除左做手術,亦都需要服用他性荷爾蒙,亦有好多人覺得只係需要服用荷爾蒙,維持女性性表徵就足夠了;所以一切都要同醫生傾,同埋諗吓自己要咩咩咩甘樣。 =]

無錯,當然如果就Biological層面,的確會就 @siuhokei 所言甘樣發展,但其實心理層面比起生理層面尤其重要,因為如果細細個有甘嘅諗法,好應該先瞭解(Approach、risk screening、preperation),然後再評估(further assesment)有無轉介需要,決定之後嘅路可以點走,同點樣走。

–Ivan

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